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lilralph
01-12-2004, 06:09 PM
Just wondering if anyone can help. I had a question on my last EMT basic test and could not find. What is the difference between femur fracture
Rotated inward=
Rotated outward=
Thank for the help......

Lewiston2Capt
01-12-2004, 06:23 PM
What is the difference between femur fracture
Rotated inward=
Rotated outward=


Lets see, I know one indicates a hip fx, the other a dislocation. Now if I could only remember which. I want to say that the dislocation will rotate outward, and the fx rotate inward. Lets see if any of the crusties out there can shine some light on the subject?

EFD840
01-12-2004, 07:19 PM
A leg that appears shortened and rotated outward is a pretty good sign of a proximal femur fracture, otherwise known as a broke hip.

Inward rotation is a sign of a posterior hip dislocation. Sometimes the rotation can be outward if the problem is an anterior hip dislocation.

I don't know about the reliability of the dislocation signs, but we've got a large elderly population and see a pretty good number of trauma from fall patients. I can't think of a single time that shortened and rotated outward didn't = fracture.

smurfe
01-12-2004, 07:21 PM
Well, technically, a hip fx is a femur fx. The head of the Greater Trochanter is broken off or the structure of the acetabulum is fractured. With a "hip" fx, one will normally see outward rotation of the injured extremity with normally associated "shortening" of the injured leg.

One will normally see "inward" rotation of the injured extremity with a dislocation of the greater trochanter from the acetabulum.

Smurfe :D

DaSharkie
01-12-2004, 08:31 PM
I was taught that when it came to hip dislocations to remember PIN. If it is a posterior dislocation then the leg will rotate in (medially) and if it was an anterior dislocation, the leg will rotate out. There may or may not necessarily be a shortening of the leg.

If it comes to a hip fracture, there is usually a shortening of the affected leg, just as in a midshaft femur fracture, becuase the bone ends have passed each other very close to the head of the femur, thus the shortening of the leg. I suppose the direction of the rotation depends upon how it is broken.

lilralph
01-13-2004, 01:37 AM
thanks thats what i needed.

Weruj1
01-13-2004, 02:24 AM
You all are doing good so far !

Lewiston2Capt
01-13-2004, 01:46 PM
Thanks for the reminder! I havent had any hip related injuries in a long time. I guess I got a little rusty on them.
Generally I treat them along the same lines, immobilize w/ vacuum splint and gently move them.