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redneckemt
01-30-2006, 02:00 PM
Maryland Man Arrested, Accused of Impersonating EMT on Calls
JUSTIN FENTON, SUN REPORTER
The Baltimore Sun


Feeling faint, Jose Cintron called 911 last month. Two emergency responders soon arrived at his Joppa home.

One of them - a polite young man, Cintron recalls - knelt down and checked his blood pressure and blood oxygen level.

"No one ever checks my oxygen," said Cintron, 67, who has experienced episodes of low blood pressure and shortness of breath since being hospitalized for pneumonia in 2004. "He said, `I'm not a doctor, so you should check with a doctor.'"

Not only was the man not a doctor, but he wasn't even an emergency responder, police say.

Robert Joseph Smith, 24, of Aberdeen, was arrested this week, accused of impersonating an emergency medical technician and of theft. Police said Smith acknowledged stealing equipment in May from the Abingdon Fire Company and responding to calls in full gear.

Firefighters became suspicious three weeks ago. Returning to the firehouse to submit an incident report, Smith was unable to enter information into a computer. He said he couldn't remember his identification number - which William Dousa, a board member and medic at fire company, said is not uncommon for less-active responders. But it raised questions.

Police arrested Smith on Tuesday in Abingdon. He was being held on $3,000 bail late yesterday afternoon, police said.

Fire officials are considering issuing identification cards to all emergency medical responders as a result of the incident and say it illuminates the strain on the county's emergency medical service, an all-volunteer system that has become increasingly taxed in recent years because of the increasing volume of service calls in a rapidly growing county.

EMS responders sometimes must drive themselves or meet up with an ambulance to get to the scene. And in a profession based largely on trust, a person who arrives with the right gear and knows procedure could go unchecked, fire officials said.

"He gave us a wake-up call," Dousa said.

Police and fire officials said Smith did not appear to have malicious intent. But they recognize the potentially serious consequences of such an incident.

"This guy infringed on public safety by performing a service he's not trained to do," said Robert B. Thomas, a spokesman for the Harford County sheriff's office.

Thomas said county fire departments "better start asking questions."

"You don't allow people to arbitrarily get into an environment with ... vulnerable, trusting citizens," he said.

The incident also raises questions about liability in the event that a patient were to suffer harm. Volunteer emergency response organizations in Maryland are insulated by state law from civil liability for events that occur in the course of performing duties, according to the National Volunteer Fire Council. Exceptions can be made for "willful or grossly negligent acts."

According to fire company records, Smith's mother had been an EMS member at Abingdon, and Smith was a fire company member for a short time before being suspended in 1998 for stealing a pager. There was no record of his training as an emergency medical technician, though all firefighters receive first-aid training.

"Because of his family history, he knew the system," Dousa said.

To craft the right image, Smith resorted to theft, police said. According to charging documents, he admitted stealing items from the firehouse: an EMS jacket, a pair of pants, fire boots, a sweat shirt, a red medical bag, a clipboard and paperwork, and a radio.

Smith monitored the radio for calls from the county dispatch center, Dousa and police said. He would radio to say he was on the way, using a number code that related to a specific company, according to police. A police report lists three incidents from November and December to which it says Smith responded.

The first allegedly came Nov. 24, when he is said to have responded to the 1400 block of Pulaski Highway, along with an ambulance from the Joppa Magnolia Fire Company. He identified himself to two firefighters as an EMT-B, or a basic first responder, and assisted with the care of a patient, according to the police report.

On Dec. 22, Smith arrived at Cintron's home and checked his condition as a Joppa-Magnolia volunteer firefighter watched, according to Cintron. Cintron said he declined to be taken to the hospital. Smith allegedly returned to the firehouse and responded to a call on Philadelphia Road in which the patient was taken to Upper Chesapeake Medical Center.

Charging documents said Smith was captured on the hospital's security camera and signed as the caregiver for the transport.

"It's a trust issue," said Rich Gardiner, a spokesman for the Bel Air Volunteer Fire Company. "You tell me you're certified, you give me all the information, I'm gonna take your word for it and we're gonna go with it. You can't make this stuff up. He had his bases covered."

Fire officials said they will push for a countywide system requiring responders to carry identification they would have to show to patients and fellow responders. They will also send sheriff's deputies to the homes of former EMTs and firefighters to collect their identification cards. Smith had his old ID card at the time of his arrest, documents show.

When told that one of the men who alleged to have responded wasn't an EMT, Cintron chuckled and said Smith was cordial and helped him.

"He was very polite," Cintron said. "I've got nothing against the two guys who came over."


Does this scare anyone else?

Adam07003
01-30-2006, 02:45 PM
Yes a little. I started volunteering here on LI and noticed at Southside hospital, the crew uses a swipe card to unlock the door. I was impressed. I found it more secure then what some of us are used to: no locks, or a keypad (which most hospitals in area use the same code).

I dont like the idea of people claiming to be medical professionals providing card. What are we supposed to do now when we showup on scene and care is being given, ask for ID from everybody. If guys like this smith character keep falsley claiming they are who they arnt, we're all gonna start questioning anybody we ever see on scene, whcih will start to be a hassle and all, but, we really have no choice its starting to see.

DrParasite
01-30-2006, 06:39 PM
I dont like the idea of people claiming to be medical professionals providing card. What are we supposed to do now when we showup on scene and care is being given, ask for ID from everybody. why not? how do you know the person is an EMT? how do you know they knew what they were doing? how do you know they didn't cause the problem? hypothetically, if it's a trauma, how do you know the person who is "providing care" didn't cause the actual trauma? if you take a report from them, how do you know what they are saying is accurate?

if I have a person providing care before my ambulance gets there, I do several things. the first is I thank them for their assistance. sometimes it's as simple as "thanks for your help, we will take it from here." If I don't know the person, I'm pretty much going to treat the situation as if they were there. I'm going to do a full assessment, ask all the questions, and treat appropriately. If I know the guy, than I'm going to operate differently.

I always carry my EMT card (NJ and NY) on my at all times. I also carry my FD shield in my wallet. whenever I approach a scene, I will almost always have my badge out, to identify who I am. If anyone questions it, I have no problems showing them my identification cards.

in today's world, with all the weirdos you got running around, you can't be too careful.

Adam07003
01-30-2006, 08:21 PM
Ack... i guess i copied over the rest... i didnt finish my thought on that... i meant: I don't like the idea of medical professionals having to prove themselves, because of this guy. Thats the entire thought.
I always carry my cards and badge on me in a wallet. I take it with me on all the calls I go on, despite the wallet being uncomfortable in my back pocket (we wear UNIFORM pants where i volunteer, rather then the EMS style pants which i would rather wear, more pockets).

Sorry there, didnt mean to confuse you on my entire thought. Im at work, busy doing a bunch of things in between replying, left out a vital part of my thought, heh.

But like you i always have my ID on me when i showup on scene outside of my uniform. My jacket has my name and the county I volunteer in writen on my jacket (my sister got me it, i woulda rather she left out the county part), as well as my NJ emt patch on the sleeve.

doccyau
02-06-2006, 04:17 AM
We wear our id as part of the uniform. It states full name (though it is common practice to cover up your surname) and level of training from volunteer to rescue paramedic.

mitllesmertz1
02-06-2006, 11:57 AM
I couldnt find my ID cards if ya paid me to look!
We wear our uniforms, but I guess they don't even have our names on them if it's just the tshirt. Many crews never find the time to put on their "Class B" shirts.

I guess if anyone ever asked for proof of my EMT status, I'd just point to the big shiny medic rig that I pulled up in!

DrParasite
02-06-2006, 02:06 PM
mitllesmertz1,

I'm surprised, the agency I work for requires you to have your ID on you at all times. your ID also works at the time clock, so you need it to swipe in and swipe out.

also, I'm surprised your agency allows T-shirts to be worn as uniform. most paid agencies user a button down shirt, or a polo shirt with a collar as a bare minimum.

and I believe in this situation, the responders were responding in their POV, not in a department issued vehicle, so pointing to the shiney medic rig (you mean you have enough down time where you get to wash it????) probably wouldn't work

rolandthunder
02-07-2006, 04:31 AM
This is a problem we dont see alot in rural areas. I know every emt and firefighter in this town and because we are a rural are we cover several other towns so I know the people there to. But we have been pushing for some form of ID if nothing else for accountability on a scene. The big problem that I run into is arriving on scene and having nurses or DR. from area hospitals and clinics on scene. We dont work alot with them so I have to assume that they are who they say they are.

mitllesmertz1
02-07-2006, 05:43 PM
Sorry Dr Parasite, we misunderstood each other.
I work for a city FD, there are no volunteers for at least 20 miles, maybe more.
We often have on only a tshirt with our uniform pants, if it's hot or we're working or just lazy.
The issue of who is who doesn't happen here- if someone showed up on scene in a pickup truck with green lights and a EMT bag, he'd kinda standout a little. :D

FireAndy
02-07-2006, 07:19 PM
This is a problem we dont see alot in rural areas. I know every emt and firefighter in this town and because we are a rural are we cover several other towns so I know the people there to. But we have been pushing for some form of ID if nothing else for accountability on a scene. The big problem that I run into is arriving on scene and having nurses or DR. from area hospitals and clinics on scene. We dont work alot with them so I have to assume that they are who they say they are.

Same here , we know everyone on the department as it's a small department. If some guy showed up out of nowhere we would know it, and since we NEVER respond to a rescue / fire in our POV that rules that out as well. Only thing we get is the "I'm a nurse" people that try to help. They had 1 day of CPR and they are all of a sudden a nurse or something. We get that quite a bit in our area.

The story however is very scary. This could happen anywhere though it seems. This guy stole radios, pagers, uniforms etc from the department. Bizarre.

What always gets me is, why not just go get your EMT license? Get a job with a volunteer rescue or something? Why lie about it? However now he is kinda screwed as I am sure what he did was a felony and getting the job now is gonna be tough.

wag11c
02-08-2006, 07:26 PM
What's the big deal? Every third day I impersonate a FF/PM and no one has caught on yet.

ZootTX
02-09-2006, 02:35 AM
Some procedures in the system need to change if someone could run calls in a system without being a member of the department and no one notice right away. My Vol Fire Dept. is small enough that I know every person in it but we are still issued photo ID and we also have a shield with the department name and our unit number on it. We would notice right away if someone didn't belong. At my paid EMT job we are required to have our ID visible at all times, and of course we are always wearing our uniforms. I keep my EMT certification cards in my wallet and I don't go anywhere outside my house without my wallet so I always have those with me.
It sounds as though this system would benefit from issuing all the members have photo IDs and are required to wear them to calls. It also sounds like they need to have a meet and greet so they know everyone.